Ok i honestly havent read the majority of the posts just dooms and b6ndit, I thought it was fucking awesome and THAT so sucks for batman ahhh alien fuck the predators there cool but you could reason with them maybe. Aliens nope your just fucked. What made the clip so good was not the cotton suit or predator alien dummies and costumes or the lack of computer enhancement but the timing and execution as well as the variety of artistic shots. Many that where used where cliche and many are standard but it was the timing and execution that brought these standard cliche shots life vivaciousness. The use of light and shadow as well as enviroment was fantastic and creative. The cloak spread out, water droplets cascading up, the joker lifted up effortlessly, the sudden introduction of a new unkown threat. The shadowing for unknown depth of new enemies. the finality of batmans win over the predator. the utter triumph and hopelessness as the alien leaned in for the kill on batman. These are in any particular order but these are the basic devices used that many film directors would cut off there limbs in order to be able to execute them with the right timing and sequencing and camera work.